We know that the Zhat Vash are thousands of years old, yet are such a closely guarded secret that most Romulans don’t think they are real. Joined: Oct 24, 2004 Location: The Island. This Star Trek: Picard article contains spoilers through Episode 3. Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral. A major mystery in Star Trek: Picard involves the Zhat Vash and their dark secret about the future that’s caused them to hate synths. They are driven by a deep loathing of artificial life and their sole purpose is to ensure synthetics are neutralised. Through Laris and Zhaban we learn that there was a sort of black ops group within the Tal Shiar called the Zhat Vash. These theories would explain both the Zhat Vashs’ actions and the sense of propriety the Romulans seem to have over Borg tech. Laris deduces this cover-up could only be the work of the Zhat Vash, a cabal of deep-state “boogeyman” that reside within the Romulans’ Tal Shiar secret police. 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(PIC: "Maps and Legends"), The Zhat Vash were formed hundreds of years before the 24th century, when a group of Romulans investigating the mystery of the Eightfold Stars discovered the Admonition on the planet Aia. If the Romulans had some part in the birth of the Borg, that revelation would be an embarrassment that shakes Romulan civilization to its core. The group is so feared for its willingness to kill that Zhat Vash is another term for the dead, the “only reliable keepers of secrets” from a Romulan’s perspective. Dahj and Soji are the first organic synthetics to have been made since then by … Their creations could have grown beyond their control and as a result, the Romulans swept the Borg under the rug, banning artificial life. The Zhat Vash wanted to track her, hoping she would lead them to a “nest.” That is exactly why Narek, an agent for the Zhat Vash, has seduced Soji. According to Laris, the Zhat Vash are an ancient secret cabal that have existed for thousands and thousands of years. We’ve watched the elaborate plot Narek played out with Soji and heard descriptions of the Romulans’ love of secrets, puzzles and subterfuge. In Star Trek: Picard Episode 2, Picard’s Romulan friends Laris (Orla Brady) and Zhaban (Jamie McShane) tell him of a super secret sect called the Zhat Vash. The Zhat Vash is motivated by a deep-seated loathing of all artificial life. In 2399, former operative Laris related the rumors about the Zhat Vash to retired Admiral Jean-Luc Picard; they came to believe that the Zhat Vash were likely behind the attacks on Dahj Asha on Earth. The Nameless Ones might have once been Romulans themselves. The show has made the role of artificial life a central theme, so the Romulans’ hatred of synthetics is no coincidence. We can surmise that this secret has to do with the mythological figure of Seb-Cheneb, the "Destroyer" who figures in a Romulan story about an … Spoilers and spoilers everywhere. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. There's also a prophecy about a Destroyer that will bring about the Day of Annihilation, ending all life. By examining the sparse information at hand, there are enough threads we can connect to reveal a possible motive that might be as devastating as the Zhat Vash fear. (PIC: "Maps and Legends"), Allegedly, the Zhat Vash operated without regard for treaty or jurisdiction, not just on Romulan worlds, but also in the Klingon Empire, the Gorn Hegemony, and even the United Federation of Planets. When she was a Tal Shiar recruit, Laris heard a drunk handler claim to her that the organization was motivated by hate, fear and pure unassuageable loathing for artificial intelligence, including androids, AIs, and other forms of synthetic life, which they attempted to seek out and destroy. The Romulans believe that Soji Asha, daughter of Data, is that Destroyer. In the second episode of Star Trek: Picard we learn of a Romulan conspiracy to hide a dark secret, but we may already know what this secret is. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. It seems the Zhat Vash think there are more androids like Dahj and Soji and are hoping to learn their location–likely to kill them all. The Zhat Vash expressly hates androids and are likely the culprits for Dahj’s murder. We’ve seen that there are Tal Shiar and Zhat Vash who have been secretly embedded in the Federation for many years, with Commodore Oh having reached the rank of Federation Security Chief. It was that event that the Federation came to believe that the Zhat Vash were likely behind the Attack on Mars and lifted the ban on creation of artificial lifeforms. Riverdale Synopsis Teases Why Skeet Ulrich Is Leaving the Show, EXCLUSIVE: American Gods Clip Sees Shadow Try His First Lakeside Pasty, Lucifer Contained a Sly Shout-Out to the Devil's TRUE Creator, Batwoman Reveals How Kate Kane Went Missing, Legacies Star Stokes 'Mizzie' Relationship Hopes, WandaVision Merch Reveals SWORD's New Name. They did a lot of medical work on the Artifact with Borg drones. A civil war between the two could have resulted in the Borgs’ exile and divergence from their Romulan siblings, as well as establishing the Romulans’ hatred of synthetics. Laris and Zhaban explain to Picard that there exists a secret group even more secret than the infamous Tal Shiar (various episodes), which is saying a lot. The reasons why the Zhat Vash — and by extension, the Tal Shiar — hate A.I. Little does Picard know that the Zhat Vash have been secretly weaponized by the head of Starfleet Security, a Vulcan named Commodore Oh (Tamlyn Tomita). The Zhat Vash Secret We kind of, sort of got a look at the overarching secret the Zhat Vash have been guarding for centuries--the one that's worth killing in order to keep. However Laris and Zhaban are quick to point out that Romulans are synonymous with secrets, it’s in the fiber of their being. The story comes from the new Star Trek: Picard prequel novel The Dark Veil by James Swallow, which follows Will Riker and Deanna Troi during their time on the USS Titan in between the events of Star Trek: Nemesis and Star Trek: Picard‘s first season. Through Laris and Zhaban we learn that there was a sort of black ops group within the Tal Shiar called the Zhat Vash. The secret the Zhat Vash kill to protect could be that the Romulans are responsible for the creation of the Borg. The Commodore and her top agent Lieutenant Rizzo (Peyton List) appear to be the spearhead of a sinister conspiracy to hunt down Data's synthetic "daughters" built by Dr. Bruce Maddox . In “Maps and Legends,” Laris says the Zhat Vash has kept their secret of hating A.I. This cabal, known as the Zhat Vash, is a group dedicated to keeping a secret shame in the Romulans’ past. Formed after learning of a potential existential threat to life in the Milky Way Galaxy through the creation of synthetic life, the secret Zhat Vash embarked on a secret campaign to prevent this. He writes and writes about Film, TV, Comics, and Games from his lair in Brooklyn. If the Zhat Vash are hunting down synthetics to cover a secret and the entire Romulan people possess an innate hatred of synthetics, it stands to reason that those two facts are connected. The general public has been led to believe that it's apocryphal, but it's actually a Zhat Vash cover-up to keep the location of the "Conclave of Eight" a secret. Zhaban: "Zhat Vash" is a term sometimes used to refer to the dead — the only reliable keepers of secrets. Or a similar idea: the secret knowledge that assimilation is inevitable. The Zhat Vash is a secret cabal known to only a few by rumor and hushed whispers, and it has been around for thousands of years. so much are yet to be revealed. (PIC: "Maps and Legends"), Its sole purpose was claimed to be to keep a secret so profound and terrible that just learning it could break a person's mind. In “Maps and Legends,” Laris says the Zhat Vash has kept their secret of hating A.I. On the surface, the exchange highlights Soji’s empathetic nature in contrast to her callous Romulan boss. WARNING: The following contains spoilers for Season 1, Episode 2 of Star Trek: Picard, "Maps and Legends," now streaming on CBS All Access. Though Romulans and Vulcans share common biological origins, as far as I know, only Vulcans are able to initiate mind melds. Picard revealed that both of these groups of Romulans have existed for thousands of years, and up until this series, the Zhat Vash toiled totally in secret. Star Trek: Picard stars Patrick Stewart, Alison Pill, Michelle Hurd, Evan Evagora, Isa Briones, Santiago Cabrera, and Harry Treadaway. They are believed to have been behind the attack on the Mars shipyard that led to Jean-Luc’s resignation and the ban of artificial life within the Federation. First, they’re guarding a secret so important and profound that they will kill anyone to keep it. Only a rumour even to Romulans, Laris is convinced they must be behind the attack. This why Laris is such a good detective in "Maps and Legends," and why she knows about the rumors of the Zhat Vash. Laris also tells Picard that this clandestine organisation has a secret 'so profound it could break minds'. The Zhat Vash have gone out of their way to infiltrate the Federation, compromising Starfleet at its highest levels. Also, the fact that Commodore Oh is able to mind meld is an intriguing bit of information in and of itself. The extremist group apparently goes back to the message of a long lost alien civilization that was apparently destroyed by artificial intelligence. New episodes of the series premiere every Thursday on CBS All Access. They operate without regard for treaty or jurisdiction, doing whatever they deem necessary to ensure their secret remains safe. https://decider.com/2020/01/30/star-trek-picard-episode-2-borg-cube-romulans Laris does give some information about the Zhat Vash, though. If Jurati is a secret Synth, ... We already know that the Zhat Vash (the group controlling the Tal Shiar) hates A.I., but we don't know why. This ultimate test of Zhat Vash agents has them go through a process known as "The Admonition" the sharing of a secret warning from an alien race … Oh is Zhat Vash and has probably access even to secret information in Starfleet and for sure pulled important stuff about all (partially) artificial life. NarissaOhRamdhaEight other Romulan females Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Picard’s Romulan workers Laris and Zhaban tell him of the secret Romulan force, the Zhat Vash. There's also a prophecy about a Destroyer that will bring about the Day of Annihilation, ending all life. The scene where Soji assists a Romulan scientist harvest Borg cybernetics takes on a new context with the Zhat Vash’s zeal against synthetics in mind. RELATED: Star Trek: Picard - Starfleet Has Been Compromised By [SPOILER], Jean-Luc, like viewers, was completely sideswiped by the revelation of both the Romulan’s anti-synthetic sentiments and the existence of the Zhat Vash. The Zhat Vash is a secret cabal known to only a few by rumor and hushed whispers, and it has been around for thousands of years. Unfortunately, centuries ago, the Admonition was discovered by Romulan explorers. The Zhat Vash was founded, and have been fighting a secret war with these ancient androids all this time. The Zhat Vash, a Romulan group existing in secret, is the main antagonist. After experiencing the memories of the utter devastation wrought by the synthetic "Destroyer", called Seb-Cheneb, contained within the Admonition, they dedicated themselves to eliminating synthetics so as to prevent another such event. After experiencing the memories of the utter devastation wrought by the synthetic "Destroyer", called Seb-Cheneb, contained within the Admonition, they dedicated themselves to eliminating synthetics so as to prevent another such event. Why did they send a death squad after Dajh? Since their introduction into Star Trek, the Borg have been a plague, easily seen by all sentient races as the greatest threat to their continued existence. But they're very real, and apparently driven by a fanatical hatred of synthetic lifeforms and artificial intelligences, explaining why Romulan technological development is so inconsistent. A lot of us who are analyzing Picard are trying to figure out what the great and terrible secret could be that the Zhat Vash are keeping. And then there's the Zhat Vash, an even more secret branch of the secretive Romulan Tal Shiar. Even if they had AI I don’t think it reaches the threshold that triggers extinction. Life like synths like Soji seem to be where the line in drawn. They show a possessiveness over the tech that could be misconstrued as simple greed, but perhaps it’s something more. It’s entirely possible that long in the Romulans’ past there was an ideological divide. There are a few possible ways this could have played out. Was Kataan another victim of the secret of the Zhat Vash? We also learn of a conspiracy within Romulan society so secretive that most Romulans are completely ignorant or dismissive of its existence. There are still too many missing pieces to form a solution to the puzzle Picard is presenting. However, they did not work alone, and they had help from inside of Starfleet to achieve their goals. Picard: Ominous. going to be a real shocker when they all finally take those fake ears off. The “Zhat Vash” are so secret that even the Tal Shiar consider them to be a myth and the meaning of the name is a Romulan term referring to the dead, “the only reliable keepers of secrets,” but as we find out this week they are very real, and apparently driven by a fanatical hatred of all synthetic life forms and artificial intelligence, explaining why Romulan technological development is so inconsistent in terms of … Mistakenly believing the Admonition to be a warning against synthetic life, the Romulans formed the Zhat Vash, a secret group dedicated to eliminating all synthetics everywhere. Mistakenly believing the Admonition to be a warning against synthetic life, the Romulans formed the Zhat Vash, a secret group dedicated to eliminating all synthetics everywhere. The Zhat Vash Secret We kind of, sort of got a look at the overarching secret the Zhat Vash have been guarding for centuries--the one that's worth killing in order to keep. As the episode progresses it’s made clear that the Zhat Vash are very real, but we aren’t given any sort of answer since they are mostly regarded as boogeymen. We learned about not one, but two secret Romulan sects — the underhanded robot-hating Zhat Vash, and their must nicer, nobler enemies, the warrior nuns of the Qowat Milat. Chief among them is a deep-seated hatred of synthetic lifeforms that apparently influences every aspect of Romulan life down to the way they code their technology. Subsequent g… Many spoilers seem to be doing the rounds that relate to episode 8 of Star Trek: Picard. They are driven by a deep loathing of artificial life and their sole purpose is to ensure synthetics are neutralised. The Zhat Vash expressly hates androids and are likely the culprits for Dahj’s murder. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Zhat_Vash?oldid=2654879. Zhat vash was also a term sometimes used to refer to the dead, the "only reliable keepers of secrets". Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Unimatrix Q, Mar 12, 2020. The group is so feared for its willingness to kill that Zhat Vash is another term for the dead, the “only reliable keepers of secrets” from a Romulan’s perspective. Spock played a crucial role in rescuing a Star Trek: The Next Generation crewmember from the Romulans. According to Laris, the Zhat Vash are an ancient secret cabal that have existed for thousands and thousands of years. They certainly weren’t a particularly nice bunch and Laris certainly wasn’t a fan. It could be even more personal than that. The Zhat Vash was the name of a secretive Romulan cabal that was introduced in the Star Trek: Picard pilot Remembrance. However, episode 8 has brought in memories alive. The scientist refers to the organic remains of the Borg the “Nameless Ones,” which seems conspicuous for a people that keep secrets. The Zhat Vash is motivated by a deep-seated loathing of all artificial life. A shame of this magnitude could prove too much for the Romulans’ overinflated pride, possibly enough to drive them mad as Laris suggests. Colour-Coded for Your Convenience : When Seven takes control of the Artifact, her eyes turn black and green, the Borg's team colors. American Gods Explains [SPOILER's] Disappearance. We don't know much about them, except that they operate within the Tal Shiar--a … "Zhat Vash" is a Romulan term referring to the dead, "the only reliable keepers of secrets," and even the Tal Shiar generally consider them to be a myth. The secret the Zhat Vash kill to protect could be that the Romulans are responsible for the creation of the Borg. Or is it some other possibility — a secret that connects to what the Zhat Vash fight against — some sort of prophecy connected to Ramdha? A one-stop shop for all things video games. We learned about not one, but two secret Romulan sects — the underhanded robot-hating Zhat Vash, and their must nicer, nobler enemies, the warrior nuns of the Qowat Milat. It also introduced a new threat in the form of the Zhat Vash, a secret organization behind the already secret Tal Shiar. If the Romulans had some part in the birth of the Borg, that revelation would be an embarrassment that shakes Romulan civilization to its core. Zhat Vash Perhaps the Zhat Vash have infiltrated the Borg before and knew these secrets all along; perhaps they found in Borg data evidence of Borg assimilating another Borg-like entity? Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. So, what is this secret? We know that Laris and Zhaban are former Tal Shiar, just as Narek and Narissa “publicly” pose as Tal Shiar while secretly also being Zhat Vash. They certainly weren’t a particularly nice bunch and Laris certainly wasn’t a fan. KEEP READING: Star Trek: Picard's Anger at Starfleet Means More Than You Think, Ari David is pretty amazing. In the 2380s, General Oh guided a group of Tal Shiar operatives, including Ramdha and Narissa, into becoming Zhat Vash by experiencing the Admonition. Since Romulan society itself is only thousands of years old, it wouldn't be illogical to think that they might date back to the time of the Romulan/Vulcan schism. Members: The pair (Zhaban much more skeptically) describes that this group has operatives deep undercover around the federation. Active (2399), The Zhat Vash was an ancient and secret Romulan cabal of Tal Shiar operatives. Since Romulan society itself is only thousands of years old, it wouldn't be illogical to think that they might date back to the time of the Romulan/Vulcan schism. The past is all set to make its entry to the present. Right at the beginning we learn more about the mysterious secret society Zhat Vash. https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-picard-section-31-working-romulans In the 2380s, General Oh guided a group of Tal Shiar operatives, including Ramdha and … A major mystery in Star Trek: Picard involves the Zhat Vash and their dark secret about the future that’s caused them to hate synths. Zhaban: "Zhat Vash" is a term sometimes used to refer to … Neither is the introduction of the Zhat Vash and the looming secret which could “break a person’s mind.” While it’s true we are given no concrete answers, the Romulans may have revealed themselves both through action and omission. It was depicted in chapter 1 of Star Trek: Picard that the motives of the Zhat Vash group remained a secret. The secret the Zhat Vash kill to protect could be that the Romulans are responsible for the creation of the Borg. Check him out on twitter: @TheAmazingAri. 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