Quando ela chegou aqui, tudo isso era mato. Since the dawn of creation, Zauriel served The Presence as a guardian angel, protecting the souls of countless women, including Cleopatra, Mona Lisa, and Joan of Arc. He doesn't really access his full power because The Presence doesn't require he do it at any given time, or simply doesn't care enough. She was sent by the Source twenty billion years ago to create new systems of life within the greater omniverse. Hard to say. If he faces her, he'll lose because it'd be way too anti-climactic for God's hit man to do her dirty at the expense of our primary heroes. The demiurge is the one who crafts the universe for God. The Presence essentially is responsible for all of creation, discovered or no. Featuring weekly comic release discussions, creator AMAs, a friendly and helpful userbase, and much more! In this case, Perpetua defied this and tried to complete it herself with pieces of the Overvoid made into her children. The Gentry from Multiversity should be able to beat her as well. Krona would come in and accidentally make it a multiverse again, awakening the Monitor brothers and it all lead to this. I honestly don't think she's going to be shown to be SUPER powerful. Superhero battle match: The Presence versus Perpetua. In the history of the DC Universe, the Presence is the fictionalized counterpart to the Godof the Abrahamic (but mostly Christian) religions. As nouns the difference between presence and present is that presence is the fact or condition of being present, or of being within sight or call, or at hand while present is the current moment or period of time or present can be a gift, especially one given for birthdays, christmas, anniversaries, graduations, weddings, or any other special occasions. Já dizia sua avó: não há bem que sempre dure, nem mal que nunca se acabe. Don't worry too much about it. First off it showed up as Cathexis in JLA #52 (the '96 run). for short) is an ageless, mysterious, gender-less, super-being, featured in the Spawn comic book. The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. And that he (and Lucifer) have been able to enter the Overvoid and see other multiverses. Introduced in The Sandman: Overture, she is the mother of The Endless. Sep 12, 2020 #27 shade0180 said: So we back at 2006 or someshit. Perpetua is this supposed creator of the universe and thats in a higher plain of existence than the new gods, monitors and the Spectre. Presence. So The Source is likely above her. Eternity vs Perpetua. she is at least stronger than anti-monitor (and that is not including 7 extra forces), we will probably see her battle almost all DC universes. The Spectre jobs as need be. If she use all of them, can she match the archangels? 117402, July 21, 1997 (275 SCRA 7727) FACTS: At around 6:30 in the evening of May 26, 1991, Zosimo Estaño was stabbed dead by one of five (5) men who arrived at his house located at Andromeda, municipality of Angono, Rizal. And I think the Otherkind are even making Heaven freak out, so maybe they're a threat as well. Tier:1-A Name:Mother Night Origin:DC Comics/Vertigo Gender:Inapplicable, though both appears as and is treated as female Age:Inapplicable. The son of Presence vs Perpetua Battle takes place on the space Peak Lucifer, not depowered Lose by Death No Morals It is also said that lucifer exist inside the God Sphere or … Press J to jump to the feed. That sounds pretty much exactly like Perpetua and her relationship to the Multiverse and the Source/the Presence. How this affects other aspects of the Presence has yet to be seen. Featuring weekly comic release discussions, creator AMAs, a friendly and helpful userbase, and much more! Powers and abilities. She hasn't spoken at all or actually done anything, they keep just showing her and talking about her. Spectre. Can Perpetua defeat the Presence? Short for the Detective Comics Universe. The presence simply left the multiverse to be on its own. Now free of her captivity after being imprisoned, Perpetua is on a quest to destroy and recreate the Multiverse as the ultimate, end-all-be-all DC enemy. He is the son of DC's version of the Abrahamic God, the Presence. In Death Of The New Gods, it became a being and fought Darkseid. While on their way, one of the heroes senses a threat far greater than Perpetua. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It goes against what’s been established in the past both IRL and in Universe, and doesn’t account for the events of Final Crisis and Final Crisis: Superman Beyond. > The 7 Endless > Perpetua (debatable; to soon to tell) > Her children: Monitor, Anti-Monitor and World Forger > The Imps from the 5th dimension > The Old and New Gods > Meta-humans > Dr Manhattan. Despite happening before Flashpoint, Manhattan wasn’t, and still isn’t powerful enough to affect the Monitor sphere, so as we see in The Unexpecteds, Superman Beyond is still canon. Then the Source will be notified and leaves a part of itself that becomes that Multiverse’s God who would then shape what was left, creating the Multiverse as we know it. a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual. The worlds in this multiverse share a space and fate in common, and its structure has changed several times in the history of DC Comics. Sign Up Login. There you go fixed it for you. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Hes no longer "God" (Elaine is), he's just the uber powerful ruler of Heaven. TOAA and the Presence are equals. 07-19-2020, 12:36 AM #6 Beadle Outerverse is a term coined within this wiki to refer to any reality that transcends all concepts of dimensions.. In-Depth Explanation. The Presence vs Perpetua. Somewhere near the top, but not the top top. When her purpose was achieved, she created an army of super predators to fight her brothers and sisters. The presence simply left the multiverse to be on its own. She's basically Presence 2.0. Perpetua | Villains Wiki | Fandom. 1 The Presence Where Marvel has The One Above All , and Image Comics has Mother, DC's omnipotent creator of all things is known as The Presence. Somewhere between 'Bugger' and 'All', because chances are good that she is going to end up like Barbatos and mostly function as a hood ornament while the interesting characters mill around her feet. Krona then accidentally recreates the Multiverse which causes the Brothers to be reborn and the rest is history. Perpetua was the first creator and mother of the Monitor, the Anti-Monitor and the World Forger. The Source is reference as being Perpetua's creator and the one who gave her the power to create the Multiverse. That just leaves no room for the well established presence. These two contradict each other. I understand they want to make it a step beyond Myx, but I don't think that's enough. Five billion years later, Perpetua made human/martian hybrids called Apex Predators to … This Article is a Disambiguation Page for Perpetua (Character) The following is a list of links to pages that might share the same title. While the Source and the Overvoid represent the blank canvas from which creation is modelled, the Presence can be described as the one responsible for fashioning said canvas to its will, and is thus the abstract embodiment of every Creator God dreamed and worshipped by mankind over the ages, that which is … Posted: (2 days ago) Perpeuta is a major antagonistin DC Comics and serves as the unseen overarching antagonist of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis and Dark Nights: Metal and the main antagonist of both theYear of the Villainsaga and Dark Nights: Death Metal and arguably the Overall Main Antagonist of the entire DC Universe. Who will win in a fight between The Presence and Perpetua? Different opinions are NOT tolerated, join the hivemind or suffer the consequences! TOAA is in every time line from beginning to end just like the Presence. Perpeuta is a major antagonistin DC Comics and serves as the unseen overarching antagonist of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis and Dark Nights: Metal and the main antagonist of both theYear of the Villainsaga and Dark Nights: Death Metal and arguably the Overall Main Antagonist of the entire DC Universe. I knew that she was the mother of the universe before, so she was as powerful as The source ? Since the cosmic Source Raptors were sent to take her away so she could be sealed away. It isn't even arguable. Good question. The One-Above-All is a What If? After searching all the universes in the multiverse for beings rich in potential, Perpetua (DC Comics) bound the humans and Martians of Earth-0 into Apex Predators, merging their worlds entirely. That being said he should still be above Michael/Lucifer I think. ... Aren't the Presence and Perpetua the same level of being I haven't read DC in like a decade but it's what I hear . The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. There are more multiverses out there given DC's current status quo. Perpetua. Perpetua is infinitely below The Presence/The Primal Monitor as they are one and the same and is Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent. It's why Beyonder had to be retconned after his first run in the 80's with Marvel. Death Metal, a mais longa e mais devastadora saga da DC das últimas décadas finalmente está chegando ao fim. At about the same time, Zauriel accidentally learned of the secret plans Asmodel (King-Angel of the Bull Host, the most war-loving and vicious of the hosts, and one of the generals of Heaven's armie… Its not my mother language. The Passion of Saints Perpetua and Felicity (Latin: Passio sanctarum Perpetuae et Felicitatis) is a diary by Vibia Perpetua describing her imprisonment as a Christian in 203, completed after her death by a redactor. During their final battle to decide the fate of the DC Multiverse, Wonder Woman and the Darkest Knight end up at the moment of creation. Perpetua was a Christian noblewoman who, at the turn of the third century, lived with her husband, her son, and her slave, Felicitas, in Carthage (in modern Tunis). ..... or even The presence? The reason being is that the first 4 and their power are directly related to the 'big G' God, who created literally everything, whereas Perpetua (man that's a silly name) only created the DC multiverse (or at least most of … Presence is a related term of present. The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. I think Over-Monitor is technically 'greater' than Presence (all 'story' and all events take place within a germ within itself, Presence was simply "God" of this infinitesimal speck) and also Elaine is canonically stronger than Presence. I have a hard time putting Perpetua above Presence because he has generally been thought of as the top dog. The power to possess ultimate power, with certain limitations. The Source stopped her, then left a part itself that became the Presence, who reset the Doom Multiverse, recreating it into 1 universe meant for Justice (hence Genesis having God repeatedly announce the goodness of a creation). As per biblical text, this creation would be inherently good. The Presence has the ability to empower various angels, including the Spectre, Eclipso, and Michael Demiurgos. The recent DC Rebirth event recast the hand as that of Doctor Manhattan, whose experiment with the DC Universe created the New 52 reboot. Other thing that you might be interested, Presence ain’t omnipotent. Seems to be a stand in for an overdeity as the Source has now been expanded to encompassing all multiverses with DC just being on in the endless sea of the Void overseen by the Source. The Monitor and Anti-Monitor have very techno-god styles, which makes them seem very powerful. The Presence is the most powerful entity in the DC Multiverse. Her species' job was just to put the pieces so the Source can have the Presence can make it for real. The chair is created by Mobius, also known as the Anti-Monitor, to assist in his quest for knowledge. When her purpose was achieved, she created an army of super predators to fight her brothers and sisters. Of course she rebelled, being obsessed with immortality (hence Perpetua) for herself and her creation. Will the Presence finally reveal itself in Death Metal? Both are said to have created the DC universe, but both stories can’t be true. Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. However, the one named Perpetua desired to eliminate the judges by using the seven hidden forces to make a multiverse she could use as an everlasting weapon. The being known as the enigmatic and nameless Mother Of Existence (Man of Miracles or M.O.M. Or like she'll likely be classified above 5D Imps, but I don't think she'll do anything to show she's beyond them. The Presence … Some of the images of her she had this cheesy "evil" grin and her character design is just really blah. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Perpetua was a Super Celestial, an agent of the Source, sent to birth a new Multiverse within the greater Omniverse. I believe that, after Justice League #22, there may be reasons to re-evaluate the Source's tiering in DC Comics. She twisted the creation for Doom in an attempt to make it a weapon against the Judges. The Presence Perpetua created dc multiverse she is above presence. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article. The New Gods are all kindof simple and technological, Darkseid is especially simple (in is original incarnation) and that really works. Press J to jump to the feed. She was sent by the Source twenty billion years ago to create new systems of life within the greater omniverse. (Not you OP, but a lot of fans everywhere else). He belongs to a race of 5th dimensional beings, meaning he isn't necessarily this creation power level guy, just a high level reality warper. Called "The Goddess of The Void", she is Non-Existence itself, the emptiness from which the entire Multiverse is born, and to which it always returns. Billions of years ago, A race known as the Super Celestials were tasked by the Judges of the Source to create new life within the Omnisverse. The Presence is not the DC company or the writers/artists, this was already proven by Galan with on panel proof. DC is a company that publishes many of the most popular comic book characters and franchises, such as Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the JLA, etc. But she is a super celestial who seems to work underneath the Judges of The Source. idk how Perpetua would fit in though, Snyder's new continuity with the 6th dimension makes scaling weird. They can even utilize the characters like Endless unless they ask Neil. He later gave it to Metron, but it was taken from him by Batman. Some sources say the "Source" is higher than Perpetua... but the "Source" has been messed around with a lot. She created the multiverse. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. Both Dax Novu and Rod Ogama Mandrakk are stronger (Rox Ogama, a the weaker of the two beat the Spectre and the Radiant), as is Superman when he’s got the Cosmic Armor. Lesser version of Omnipotence. Maybe like Spectre on his really good days is where I'd currently rank her just off of hype. The unofficial DC Comics Subreddit To fix her mistake, the Presence resets and recreates everything into one universe. For a more in-depth analysis, outerversal realities are those whose nature is conceptually different from time and space (of any size and complexity), that is, they are completely transcendental in relation to physics. All of those What if stories are divergent time lines, and the time lines are infinite. Continually making characters as the most powerful in creation becomes nonsensical if you build a new one that's supposed to be over the rest every few years. Ever radiate multiverse is complex, with Elaine Belloc and the Presence can make it a multiverse before dying no. Realidade DC was already proven by Galan with on panel proof that transcends all concepts dimensions! 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